Lady Bastille
06-21-2017, 09:02 PM
Can't really make this up:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/05/31/white-supremacists-love-vikings-but-theyve-got-history-all-wrong/?utm_term=.434dfaa9ccd7
The colonization of Vinland was pretty much a disaster, but it did happen. There’s archaeological evidence for a Viking presence in North America. Two surviving sagas recount the voyages. The sagas don’t always agree when it comes to laying blame — was it internecine violence or fighting with the indigenous people? Who started the fighting? The general details, however, are known. Erikson found an island, named it Vinland and went home with timber. Later expeditions failed, though a few survivors made it home to tell the tale. Voyages west from Greenland soon ceased, as the risk/reward calculus didn’t seem favorable. So much for Vinland.
The colonization wasn't a disaster. It went quite well until climate change happened. The idea that it was a failure is not based on modern archaeology.
Oh, and this comment was pretty golden:
miquel95929
6/2/2017 9:11 PM EDT
James Chambers writes in "The Devil's Horseman" that in 1200CE Europe was the most "backward continent on Earth". Enlightenment came from returning Crusaders but more significantly from the invasion of Europe by the Mongols which brought connection w/China & Far East. It is also interesting that refugees hiding from the Mongols fled to the North German Swamps & founded the settlement that became Berlin. Take that White Supremacists.
Nevermind the fact that Berlin was inhabited by Germanians by 9000 BCE. For some reason, people think the Norse trading with other cultures doesn't make them white, but multi-racial.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/05/31/white-supremacists-love-vikings-but-theyve-got-history-all-wrong/?utm_term=.434dfaa9ccd7
The colonization of Vinland was pretty much a disaster, but it did happen. There’s archaeological evidence for a Viking presence in North America. Two surviving sagas recount the voyages. The sagas don’t always agree when it comes to laying blame — was it internecine violence or fighting with the indigenous people? Who started the fighting? The general details, however, are known. Erikson found an island, named it Vinland and went home with timber. Later expeditions failed, though a few survivors made it home to tell the tale. Voyages west from Greenland soon ceased, as the risk/reward calculus didn’t seem favorable. So much for Vinland.
The colonization wasn't a disaster. It went quite well until climate change happened. The idea that it was a failure is not based on modern archaeology.
Oh, and this comment was pretty golden:
miquel95929
6/2/2017 9:11 PM EDT
James Chambers writes in "The Devil's Horseman" that in 1200CE Europe was the most "backward continent on Earth". Enlightenment came from returning Crusaders but more significantly from the invasion of Europe by the Mongols which brought connection w/China & Far East. It is also interesting that refugees hiding from the Mongols fled to the North German Swamps & founded the settlement that became Berlin. Take that White Supremacists.
Nevermind the fact that Berlin was inhabited by Germanians by 9000 BCE. For some reason, people think the Norse trading with other cultures doesn't make them white, but multi-racial.